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J.R. Rochford:
Good afternoon and welcome to another Money Show with J.R. Rochford, Anthony Carrao, and more importantly, the one and only Sam Davis. So thank you so much for taking time out of your weekend. As always, you know, you can find us at WW w dot another money show. We would love for you to be a part of our show in a more personal way. Make it a point with us. Ask us questions. Let us help you. A lot of what we talk about is pretty negative stuff. So, you know, I can all this doom and gloom, that's great. And maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. I think actually we're getting closer and closer. But the key is solutions. How do we help your situation? You know, as always, we don't want to just we don't want you scared. We want you prepared. That's the theme of our show and that's what we're running with. So if you joined us last week, you notice that I was out of town for a change and Anthony and Sam were in charge.
Anthony Carrao:
It's a great show.
J.R. Rochford:
Probably the best one we've had. I'm trying to get it banned in 36 countries. You know, we're on we're on talk radio. You know that, right? Anthony, I heard a Wu-Tang Clan reference. I mean, not only did it tickle me, you know, when we talk about another money show being somewhat tongue in cheek, I mean, we are not another money show. But when I heard Wu-Tang Clan, I was like, Sam and Anthony must be without J.R., because that.
Anthony Carrao:
Whole thing is everything you need to know about finances. Wu-tang Clan has summed up Cash rules everything around me. That's the whole that's the moral of the story. Why do I need an hour for me every week to tell me what Wu-Tang told me in 5 seconds?
J.R. Rochford:
I think the concept is beautiful, but you made 14% of our audience look up. Who is Wu-Tang and what is their clan have to do with my money? No.
Anthony Carrao:
Wu-tang viewership went up.
J.R. Rochford:
With.
Anthony Carrao:
The senior community because of that episode.
J.R. Rochford:
Now's a good time to remind people of the Wu-Tang are going on tour this later this year. We're always looking for sponsors. So if in a few months, nah, we are another money show sponsored by Wu-Tang Clan. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that because have you all.
Anthony Carrao:
That would be a great clip from The Chappelle's Show, Wu-Tang Financial. They actually have a bit or a skit about that.
J.R. Rochford:
Probably Sam's already on his Google search looking for that one.
Anthony Carrao:
I don't know if that one's getting passed a. Yeah. Or compliance or whatever, though.
J.R. Rochford:
Or the NSA or whoever listens to this stuff. The other thing is I have to jump to the end of the show. You guys took it out with Steve Martin, the Saturday Night Live clip, which is one of the best financial clips on the planet. It's like I'm sure that's where Dave Ramsey gets all his advice was from that two minute skit. So I want to congratulate you. That was a really good show. It was a little less doom and gloom than I care for, like alarm people a little more than you two did. It was really financial. Sam. Sam. I really. I think I should bow out. Anthony, you said you're going to remove me. I believe, towards the end the show. I'm fine with that, Sam. It was perfect talking about long term investment. You know, I mean, the only heartburn I have listening to Sam talk about, like, smart financial planning, we are in uncertain times right now. So, you know, Anthony always talks about me saying, come January 1st of 2023, the light switch going to flip. You know, we're going to get back to normal. Then we're going to talk about age based, income based, asset based, tax bracket based planning for right now. I want to talk about tower gardens and stocking up on food because I still think we do at least have to get through the next six months of weirdness before we start regular financial planning mutual funds.
J.R. Rochford:
You know, Sam, one of the things about mutual funds, you can go to me and this was my previous life. I've since rectified my my behavior. But I mean, if somebody came in with a smaller amount of money and I was able to offer mutual funds, then the fees were kind of high. You know, the fee is up to five and a half percent. You know, I remember some that were 5.75%. You know, a lot of that stuff in normal times, let's say we had a 12, 13, 14 year run up in the market and you could cushion those fees and still get ahead. They didn't look so bad. But all of sudden, here comes March of 2020 and you're not so sure. I mean, yeah, those fees are kind of steep. Boom. Fast forward, go to the first six months of 2022 and those fees are noticeable, you know, and when we get we get to be a second opinion for people. That's how our relationships start. You know, nobody just sees our sign on 98th Avenue and Bell Road in Convenient Sunset, Arizona. You know, people become a second opinion. Our number one tool our number one tool is Anthony. Because Anthony takes.
Anthony Carrao:
We just call me a tool.
J.R. Rochford:
Anthony takes hey, we're on talk radio. Let's not go back to Wu-Tang and talking about it too. So we take a yellow pad and a pen and a speakerphone, and we call companies our favorite target. As always, variable annuities. We love to call variable annuity companies. With the client on speakerphone, we always full disclosure, we tell the the rep we're on speakerphone with the client. The client has to give their name, date of birth, lasts for whatever, say it's okay to talk to us and then we just ask questions and we I would say literally 90 to 95% of the time the client is startled by what they hear, either a when they purchased said variable annuity two years ago, seven years ago, whatever they either A didn't understand or things were not articulated properly enough for them to grasp what they were getting into. And it's funny, you know, what's what's our answer for variable annuities? You know, my answer years ago was usually fixed annuity coupled with mutual funds. You know, my biggest fund family, you know, I was a I was a representative representing Fidelity, American Funds, all the big companies.
J.R. Rochford:
But the number one company I told people about, believe it or not, was Vanguard. I was like, if you're going to buy it, you're going to buy a good S&P growth fund, whatever. You really don't need to pay an adviser. You need to kind of do it yourself a little bit. So my my thing with these variable annuities, you know, we'll call the company, say who the client says who they are or say it's okay to talk to us. We ask the questions that the client don't really know what to ask. You know, what is your annual fee? What are your mortality expense charges? Do you have sub account fees? You know, when you when you start digging into these fees, they can be 3 to 6%. And this gets brought up on purpose today. I'm trying to be more financial. I'm jumping right into financial advice instead of the doom and gloom that I just can't wait to get to. I'm going to go backwards today financial first. And then by the time you get done, listen to us today, you are going to build a spider hole in your backyard.
Anthony Carrao:
And let me just tap out. I mean, I got you can just do your own own show. I kind of it.
J.R. Rochford:
I kind of liked listening to your show without me. I wound up listening to it twice. I listened to it again last night. It's very when we don't interrupt each other, when we don't have each other to bounce things back and forth, a lot more gets done. But then it was more like it was like it was kind of like another financial show. I mean, it was it was a little more like a regular radio. So when I heard it.
Anthony Carrao:
Another Money show, would you describe it as just another Money Show?
J.R. Rochford:
Yeah, but it was kind of like unfortunately, it was like another money show. It was like Anthony's actually talking about financial matters, like, what is this? And then when I listened to it again last night, I was like, Oh. Anthony's slamming Jamie Dimon. You've got six felonies. What makes you different than the Chinese bankers? He was slamming we. It was like, you know, when I got to the end of the second time listen to it, I was like, okay, this is still pretty good. I think whoever, whomever, I don't know. I'm not an English teacher. Whoever listen to the show live last Saturday probably thought it was more financial base than they get from me. But then if you take the time to go to our replays by the way without commercials at WW another money show dot com you'll you'll really. A lot of what we talk about is what's wrong with financial matters. You know again full circle back to Sam brilliant advice like if you're investing you know for ten, 20, 30 years, this stuff currently should not matter to you. My whole point about that, it has to matter to you. If I thought the correction we've just had for six months was the correction and now we're March 9th of oh nine and I think things are going to start being okay. I would tell you that, you know, don't forget, we are financial advisors. What what is a financial advisor? You know, they give financial advice. No kidding. But, you know, we're also psychologists. We're like your bartender. We have to ask you, what are your goals and your dreams and your plans and do you have a boat? We also are in sales. If all I do is tell you the sky is falling and nothing is good. Ba ba ba ba ba ba. You're never going to buy from me. You know I need to sell stuff.
Anthony Carrao:
Isn't that exactly what we do with this show? I haven't. We just told spent most of our time, like, no, don't give us money. Like buy food, buy water, get out of debt, wait for opportunities.
J.R. Rochford:
And that's why we are living on our savings. That's why I am living on the income of a teacher.
Anthony Carrao:
Because we're through fiduciary.
J.R. Rochford:
Jr Fiduciary. Oh, let's talk about that in a second too. We have so much to get to today.
Anthony Carrao:
We have to we're not going to get any of it, are we, now?
J.R. Rochford:
No, we are. No, today we are. Even if it's the last 5 minutes and I just have to just rant and rave, that's where we're going today, because I have so much to talk about. You know, my my whole thing about this normal financial planning versus now we will I'm so hopeful. Get back to normal sitting down, you know, getting you out of if it's appropriate, getting you out of your variable annuities into things that are more appropriate. I can't wait to get back to that day. I just every single week, you know, I'm a little sponge. I'm up at night. Unfortunately, I have slight insomnia, so I'm up reading and gleaning what I can out of financial articles, by the way, you know, one way you can do what I do, whoever you are, there's a few things that are outside of the box that you can turn to to see some of the stuff I get. One is called Epoch Times. It's they have a free version which is kind of limited. They have a paid version. Another site is called Zero Hedge. You know, I go on another Salem station, I go on 10:10 a.m.. I think I can say that. And there's a Patriot Trading group that that guy's name is Joe Jake. And I hope I can say all this. I mean, I'm boosting other.
Anthony Carrao:
You know, the English words for it and it's coming out of your mouth. So I'm pretty I.
J.R. Rochford:
Do get censored. I just hope I don't get shut down here for saying names. So but Joe, he's a brilliant man. I mean, start listening to people and cross reference and educate and you'll see that there's a lot of merit to what we're saying on this show.
Anthony Carrao:
He may be more doom and gloom than you.
J.R. Rochford:
Yeah, I look at you four years ago. Look at the four year ago. Anthony and look at the now.
Anthony Carrao:
Anthony Yeah. I was happy once.
J.R. Rochford:
You were happy, but you made everybody else miserable. I'm glad now that we're now.
Anthony Carrao:
It's just you. Now I just get to make you and Sam miserable. That's. I get my week.
J.R. Rochford:
Sam loves us. Sam doesn't say much he did last week. I was very happy to hear so much of Sam.
Anthony Carrao:
We had to carry the show because I was bombing so bad.
J.R. Rochford:
Right? Sam, today is. Doctor's back. So let's do this. Why don't we take a break? Make sure you ask us questions at team, at another money.com, find us at our website, another money show scam. Give us a call. 6235230444. Let's take a few minutes and we'll be right back.
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Late December. Back in 63.
J.R. Rochford:
Welcome back to Another Money Show. Thank you very much for joining us on your busy weekend. So I've decided that the first segment was a little bit passionate, you know, I mean, these guys, Anthony and Sam, tend to push my buttons and they get me worked up. But I decided that I want to read something to you, if that's okay. I want to be common. Melo Anthony. Is that good, bro? I'm going to be calm and mellow just to lull you into false insecurity. Then I'm going go back to my ranting, if that's all right. Perfect. So let me read this. I know Anthony doesn't care for this because he thinks it's a little too mellow and tame and whatnot. But I think it's really I think it's great and it makes me very calm and relaxed. So let me drink my tea and read this, please. Once there lived a farmer who owned land along the Atlantic coast. Even after letting out several advertisements for recruitment to take care of his farm, no one seemed to sign up for it. People were reluctant to work along the Atlantic. It had frequent raging storms. These cruel and violent storms destroyed every building and every crop field they touched. After months of advertising and request refusals, a man approached the farmer for the job to take care of the farm. Do you have any skills or experience to work on a farm like this? The farmer asked him. Well, I may not have enough experience, but I can sleep when the wind blows, replied the man. Although the farmer wasn't much convinced by the man's answer, the farmer was far too desperate for someone to help him on the field, so he hired him anyway.
J.R. Rochford:
The man worked well around the farm. The farmer was pretty satisfied with the man. Then one stormy night the wind howled, waking the farmer. The farmer immediately got off his bed, grabbed a lantern and headed towards the corridor where his helper was sleeping. Wake up, the farmer yelled, throwing the soundly asleep man off the bed. A storm is coming. Tie down things before they get blown away. The man sat up and said, No, sir, I told you I can sleep when the wind blows. The farmer turned red with fury. After listening to this, he controlled all his will to fire the men because at that moment it was more important to secure the fields and barn than to argue with his helper. The farmer ran out to tie things down and was surprised by what he saw. All of the haystacks were covered with tarps. The chickens were in the coops, the cows were in the barn. The doors were securely closed and barred, shutters were secured. Everything was tied down so that nothing could be blown away. The farmer smiled as he comprehended what the employee had said. Now he understood what the man meant when he said he could sleep when the wind blows because he knew he could sleep soundly through the storm because he was prepared. All right. I see where that's a little bit unlike me to read, but really good.
Anthony Carrao:
You wake me up now that it's over.
J.R. Rochford:
Sam, isn't that, like, brilliant in kind of a boring sort of way? Yeah, I think that kind of gets down to when you guys say proactive versus reactive. I think that's sort of the moral of the story there. Yes. And that is a story with really good moral. We we want you prepared, not scared. We want you proactive, not reactive. We always say that. So if we get you so you know what you have, you know what your risks are, you know what your fees are, you know how things work. Then if things get worse, like I honestly believe they are going to, you're going to be better prepared than most. So and that's the whole bottom line of our job. Anthony, when we talk about, you know, asking more people to buy water than to buy financial products, we're doing the right things. You know, you brought up fiduciary before. I mean, you know, fiduciary, you know what that means, right? I mean, that that term didn't exist in our industry ten years ago. You know, it was kind of came out politically and it meant put the client's best interests before your own. Well, no kidding. I mean, if you work with some his health or their money and you're not doing that, shame on you do believe in karma or God or anything. So right is right. Wrong is wrong. You know, the whole thing about our job right now, if we were selling like normal times, if we were selling things to people and I say selling on purpose because you're really kind of have to talk people into things.
J.R. Rochford:
A lot of times when it's financial, would we be doing it for their best interest or ours or obviously for ours, because we're not doing that. I mean, you know, if it's right to rearrange things, reposition things for a better result, you know, are we doing that? Of course we want to help people. But, you know, some of the people right now and again, I listen to a lot of radio on the weekends and I'm still hearing a lot of sales. I'm hearing a lot of talk about hold the course. And it's only a paper loss that that is one of the biggest pet peeves of mine. It's only a paper loss. We we all learn that. I mean, all the financial people learn the same things. It's a paper loss. And I keep shouting at people. Yeah, but for over a decade, it was only a paper gain. You know, Anthony, you brought up last week, would you rather be Bill Gates or who was either an Elon Musk, you know. I mean, I would rather be both combined, but I'm the best person, you know, I can. I swear today. Sam, is it okay? I read an article years ago that indicated that that swearing was a sign of intelligence. And I feel like I'm super smart. So I want to swear. I want to get. Is there a radio station that you just swear unlimited or is.
Anthony Carrao:
That like that's what Sirius is for the series still around? I think unless you buy a new vehicle, I don't know if anybody actually has serious accounts. I'm pretty sure that's their whole demographic. Is those three free months when you buy a new car.
J.R. Rochford:
All right, so that's off. I'll just swear here and you can bleep it out. You have a button, right? Sam, can't you push a button right when it looks like I'm about to swear?
Anthony Carrao:
So. So you were saying, you know, the paper loss versus paper gains. And I brought that up last week as it's kind of a timing thing, like if you're just going to go with the ebbs in the flows, you just have to pray. When you're getting out, you're in an upswing. If it's a downswing, you hope you don't need the money because that's yeah, I get like sector rotation and get in into things when they're low and, you know, waiting for them to get high again. But when everything like in 2008, the dot com bubble, March of 2020, December the last quarter of 2018, like everything falls together in these massive bubbles. So no amount of sector rotation, no amount of really anything is going to help your situation. You're going to lose. So in normal times it makes sense to do the rotation to cash out when things are high, buy things when they're low. But, you know, if you if you want to take your money out unless you have cash, write back to Wu-Tang Clan. Cash rules everything around me. You guys have to have some.
J.R. Rochford:
Contract that Wu-Tang.
Anthony Carrao:
Have to cash out when things are high, especially if times are weird and volatility, you know you're going to lose to inflation. But do you lose to inflation or do you lose to the market?
J.R. Rochford:
And if you're my age and you're confused about the whole Wu-Tang thing, what Anthony is saying, I'm going to paraphrase it, Barry Manilow would say Cash is king. He would say the golden rule, who has the gold rules. So and I just Barry Manilow, Wu-Tang it's a fine line six and one.
Anthony Carrao:
So that you made that relevant to a. Listenership.
J.R. Rochford:
It's talk radio. We you know, and we are getting a younger listenership, you know, through the replays anyway. You know, let's do this. Let's wrap up for this segment. Hey, Sam, can you lead us in with the Milton Friedman inflation clip when we come back from the break? Let's talk a little bit let's talk about some of the big stuff that's still going on, inflation, some of these things. And then let's go into some of the I promise I would rant a little bit about China and about the IRS. And I want to do some of that. I want to I kind of want to end today with with waking people up. So find us if you would at WW W another money show. Com and listen to our replays this is I believe this is episode number 15 so check them out. I believe they're under the they're actually under the podcast banner on the top of the website. So thank you so much for joining us. And we will be right back.
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J.R. Rochford:
Welcome back to another Money Show with J.R. Rochford, Anthony Carrao and the one and only Sam Davis. So thank you again for taking time out your weekend to join us. If you ever want to be a bigger part of our show. Come in and sit with us. Let us come to you. We can split up. We can come see you. We're in Sun City where we have some older clients and they are more comfortable sitting at their kitchen table. We are even willing to do that. So you won't get to meet the lovely Kiana if you don't come in the office. But we'll come see you. So I want Sam, if you will play the play, the video clip, the inflation clip from Milton Friedman. And let's let's have people wrap their mind around this.
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Inflation is made in one place. In one place only Washington, D.C. And in Washington, D.C., the chief source is a Greek temple on Constitution Avenue, which houses the Federal Reserve Board. And a major accomplice, of course, sits in the halls of Congress in Washington. They are a major accomplice because you tell them to be. The American people have been telling Congress for many years, spend more money on us, please. It has imposed inflation as a tax. That's one tax that you don't have to vote for, but you have to pay.
J.R. Rochford:
What Milton is saying is basically inflation is not going away. You know, we record this on a Tuesday. Today is actually Tuesday, July 12th, 2022. You hear it on a Saturday. So between Tuesday and Saturday, the inflation numbers will be coming out. I have a feeling they are not going to wane too much. Actually, I think we might start talking about the R word a little more, the recession word. So but with with inflation being another tax, it leads me to think about something when when I'm at a personal basis, not with Mr. Friedman. When Milt and I are chatting and he talks about inflation being another tax, it's like, you know, we don't need any more taxes. When I think taxes, I think IRS. You know how I said I wanted to rant a little bit about the IRS. I think this is a good a good time to do so. I'll try to be kind of calm because the IRS, they can probably find out where I work and where I live, which.
Anthony Carrao:
And they're armed, too.
J.R. Rochford:
So are exactly what I want to bring up. This is from I referenced earlier. If you want to start doing some research, look outside of NBC, CBS, et cetera. Go to The Epoch Times. Here is an article from July 1st of 2022 from the Epoch Times. I had to figure out which year it was. So House Maker Introduces Bill to ban IRS From Buying Ammunition. Let me read that again. In case you thought you were hearing things. House Lawmaker Introduces Bill to Ban IRS from buying ammunition. I'll only read one little part of this. It's called the Disarm the IRS Act. And Representative Matt Gaetz from Florida on Friday introduced a bill in the House to borrow the Internal Revenue Service from acquiring ammunition. I have a question for you. I have a question mostly for you, Anthony. Why does the IRS need ammunition, pay.
Anthony Carrao:
Your taxes or else?
J.R. Rochford:
That's fine. That's that's kind of what see, I'm looking into the future, thinking if things change in this country. Right. I'm just trying to trying to jump ahead. So this came after Gaetz in interviews with Fox News and other outlets. The other outlets are important, too, because some people care for one side of the aisle with news. Some don't express concern after he discovered that the IRS purchased more than 700,000 in ammunition in recent days.
Anthony Carrao:
It's been going on for years, though, like the IRS being armed and all of these federal you know, this is not new.
J.R. Rochford:
Social Security. Social Security Administration has weapons and ammo. Did you know, Noah, the weather people reference research. Find out if what we're saying is true. Noah has ammunition and firearms. Why is the entire government starting to load up on ammunition? Is it to keep ammunition off the store shelves for the common person or is it because this country could be changing? I can't tell you the answer to that. Let me read one more little line from this article. According to a report released by the Government Accountability Office, isn't that kind of an oxymoron? The Government Accountability Office in 2018, 2018, this was a little while back. The IRS has been stockpiling ammunition and weapons for years. As of 2018, the agency had 4487 firearms and 5,062,006. They down to the six rounds of ammunition in its inventory. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? All right. So we're we're going to ease into break here because all I want you to do is absorb what I just said to you. So inflation bad, bad, inflation bad.
Anthony Carrao:
And how we fight inflation with ammo.
J.R. Rochford:
Inflation bad, worse. Irs being armed to them.
Anthony Carrao:
It's coming right for us.
J.R. Rochford:
So obviously this is my last show. Anthony Sam, you may want to right now say that the opinions expressed within are strictly those of Joe Rochford and his vivid imagination. All right, Wayne, we need to get to break time, because I want to talk about something worse than the IRS being armed. I want to talk about you losing all your money in the banks after the break, if that's okay. Thank you again for being here, as always. We greatly appreciate it. Make sure you reach out to us at team at another money show or look us up on WW Dot, another Money Show. Listen to our past episodes. Start with the second one. It's on banks. Third one is on inflation. We cover all the major financial stuff and then one on one, one family, one couple, one person at a time. We'll be glad to help you improve your situation.
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Anthony Carrao:
You're back listening to another Money Show. Anthony carrao, J.R. Rogers and Sam Davis. And this will probably be the only time that I get to talk to this segment, J.R. So I had to take my my intro so I could get a word in. But now, now J.R. is ready to rant and rave everything he's been building up. It's been so calm and quiet, the calm before the storm. And here is a hurricane, J.R..
J.R. Rochford:
In case people are just joining us. Anthony, would you like me to read When the Wind Blows again?
Anthony Carrao:
Oh, please.
J.R. Rochford:
Or would you like somebody to offer you $10? You know, the good thing about Anthony, he's really good at being supportive to his dear, old, gray haired, mullet wearing stepfather.
Anthony Carrao:
Family school. Right?
J.R. Rochford:
Right. Yeah. No, if you didn't love me, if you didn't care about me, things would be different. I get it.
Anthony Carrao:
Oh, it'd be much meaner.
J.R. Rochford:
So let's. What do you want to do? Do you want to be financial or do you want to be ranting? Baby, I say we be rant and rave for a little bit and then let's let's end this financially. So let's talk about something real quick. So we one of our primary focuses on financial matters is liquid money. Your bank, you know, years ago it really dawned on me this is probably 15, 20 years ago, you know, I'm in Sun City. A lot of people, they're older, they like CDs. They used to do CD laddering. They love their I bonds, they love their bond laddering. They had certain things that were really just comfort to them. And one day somebody asked me, this is going back a long time. What is a CD, as it were? What do you mean? What is a CD? And they were asking me What is in a CD? You know, what am I actually buying? And I was like, Well, that's a really good question. Let me research for. So we did a little research together and it turns out that CDs are basically short term treasuries.
J.R. Rochford:
I mean, CDs, the bank product, it's, it's short term like like bonds. It's just it's Treasury money. Fast forward to now the government is 30.5 trillion in debt. So, you know, people buying in bonds right now, they're getting a tremendous interest rate. You know, the caveat and again, we're always careful not to give specific recommendation. The caveat is the, you know, there's a limit you can only put in 10,000. You have to hold it for a year. You have to own it for five years. You have to be careful with penalties and all that. So the whole thing, though, about bank, you know, when you look at what a CD, what a money market is, when you look at all these things, they're all intertwined with the 30.5 trillion in debt. So we bring up to people, if you're heavy in banks, heavy in credit unions, money markets, at a mutual fund company, for example, you know what? What you own, if we have a modern day run on the banks, which actually we did start one in 2008, beginning in 2009, we did start one.
Anthony Carrao:
And the FDIC has a money to protect us, right? That's what they're.
J.R. Rochford:
For. Funny you bring that up. The FDIC is that is that Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, federal that it almost seems like they would be tied to the people that are 30 and a half trillion in debt. So the FDIC, we always recommend, don't take our word for it, research what we say, go to their own website, go to their own. You know, it's us against them. Today, we pit ourselves against.
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The FDIC banks that's coming out.
J.R. Rochford:
Yes. We want to be sued not only by Jamie Dimon, not only by Janet Yellen. Dave Ramsey. We want the well, the only ones I'm worried about now is the IRS. They're pretty well armed. So if you go to FDIC dot gov, you're going to notice something. The the amount of protection you have on covered accounts, covered meaning under 250,000. If you have over 250,000 per account, you're just hanging in the wind. But under you feel pretty safe. It's in the neighborhood of of one and a third percent. You know, I haven't looked in a couple of months. The last time I looked it up, it was exactly.
Anthony Carrao:
Post them on their annual reports. I don't know if they're in the quarterly, so there's not.
J.R. Rochford:
Okay, well, the last we saw was 1.27%. I mean, think about that. So, you know, 1.27% of your covered money is covered. That shouldn't give you that much confidence. So now I look at I look at what.
Anthony Carrao:
May I ask you a question real quick? Because I don't know if you know, because I don't know the answer, but how much constitutes a run on the bank? Like what? Percent, because I can't imagine it's a high percentage because these banks aren't keeping a ton of money. You know, they make money by loaning money out so they own liabilities is kind of how they they make their living. But what would it take? I mean, does it only take three or 4% if everybody went out for every $100 they have in the bank? If they took out three or $4, everybody. Is that what it would take or what what's that amount? Do you know?
J.R. Rochford:
I have a feeling that that's going to be a very hard statistic to pin down, because I don't think there's a set answer to that. That's my guess. I don't know. I've never researched it. I can see by Sam's eyes that he's looking into it right now. I can tell you I'm not really worried about a run on the bank. I don't think we're going to get there. I don't think we have time. I've been warning people that the the wheels are in motion to put. Us into a digital currency. We're going to go into a central bank digital currency. I mean, so I honestly believe that we are going to be like recent days, China. I think there's going to be some liquidity issues with the bank and then I think the banks are going to shudder. I mean, it's my opinion. It's what I think. If you start listening to Joe on on the Salem station, 10:10 a.m. in Phoenix, if you start reading ZeroHedge, if you start looking outside of your normal channels, I think you'll agree with me things are amiss. So base in, you know, let's talk about solutions. What are the solutions? Well, there are alternatives. If you're taking your money out of the bank, what are you going to do with it? I would say have some cash until we go to the digital currency, at which point they should ask you to turn it in for the equivalency in the digital currency. You know, we're going to I think there's going to be a lot of panic. I think the country is going to have to go into a barter situation. So if you start reading and you feel like I'm on the right track, that the banks are going to close their doors, then it's going to end up with a digital currency stock up by food and water.
J.R. Rochford:
Do this stuff if I'm wrong, donate it later. Be a hero. Diversify your holdings when you're looking at normal financial planning like you guys discuss last week. Let's talk to you about income over assets. Let's talk about products that can go up but can't go down guaranteed by the company strength. Let's talk about all these things you hear on other shows. We'll talk about that with you. We're also going to add in Tower Gardens, we're going to have you call Marcy if you have the means and the desire to feed yourself, be sustainable. You know, I mean, we we very much may go into a day where a sustainable lifestyle is the new rich. You know, by the time you hear the show on Saturday, you may you may have read that they put out a warning on Monday yesterday that people in New York have to be prepared for a nuclear attack. You know, look it up. Monday, a warning came out to New York residents. It was like a PSA saying to get into your house, take off your contaminated clothing and listen for more details. When I read that last night, I was like, oh, for Pete's sake. I mean, I can't keep getting further and further down the road of thinking something is going to give. And here, here this comes, we may get nuked. I mean, you know, Iran is sending nuclear capable drones to Russia. I read that. I don't know if it's true. How do you vet and verify when it's 12 things? Every single knife that you read, how do you screen your body?
Anthony Carrao:
See what he's got going on?
J.R. Rochford:
This is J.R. is there it's funny. I mean, we talk so negatively about some people in this country and now we're. Yeah. Carl Putin. I like poo poo. So let's, let's continue the, the way of the banks. So there are solutions to these problems. Here's my thing. When I listened to your show last Saturday and you talked about China, you know, you reference the movie The China Hustle, which really that's a wonderful movie. I think watching China Hustle will open a lot of people's eyes.
Anthony Carrao:
And it's not on YouTube.
J.R. Rochford:
It's free YouTube. We love you, too. We're not going to sue you, Putin. We're not going to sue you. Youtube. Everybody is going to sue you. Oh, wait, I got that right. You're going to sue us. So China Hustle is a wonderful movie, not be because you're going to walk away knowing what Chinese stocks are, by which I thought that would help me do. It's actually to show you how much manipulation is in the financial world. I think the more you start opening your eyes, the better. When we started the radio program we were telling you about, you need to know that the Dow Jones Industrial Average is 30 companies. You know, people are just they assume it's multitudes and not that many. It's 30. So back to the banks. You know, when you brought up China, it's like you even said, well, that's China that could never here happen here. Start putting things together and tell me you're sure it could never happen here. I mean, you know, and whenever you hear the government, you know, the government is supposed to keep us calm. I don't know that they are, you know, I mean, you know, last the end of June, we're talking about more gun control measures. It's like but everything I read says that crime is skyrocketing in New York and different cities, you know? Oh, they said the word bipartisan. Whenever you hear the word bipartisan, they're just going to screw you twice as hard and fast. That's all. I think we're just going to take it from two sides. I'll be careful how I say that. I said that was probably kind of hard.
Anthony Carrao:
You were careful about the way you said that at all, but I think you've.
J.R. Rochford:
Know my intelligence. With other words, I just when I hear the word bipartisan, that scares me right now, because we are the most polarized we have ever been in the history of this country. That's how I see it. So when you hear bipartisan, it's like, what? I mean, how can that be?
Anthony Carrao:
I mean, they just finally agree that they don't care about to you.
J.R. Rochford:
Which to paraphrase.
Anthony Carrao:
We've come to an agreement. I was like, Oh, we don't care about any of these people.
J.R. Rochford:
Yeah. And that means they're going to come at you twice as hard and fast. That's all I'm saying. So the whole China thing that you brought up, when I listen to your episode again last night and I really put it all together, it's like, you know, that could be foreshadowing. You know, here's an article from it's on July 10th, so it's easy to find ZeroHedge. Chinese Bank Run Turns Violent after. Angry crowd storms. Bank of China branch over frozen deposits. And when you read the article, there's a there's a city called Yangzhou. And in Zhengzhou, these people can't get their money. And they gathered 1000 of them gathered, and basically with signs to protest. Well, about 3000 government officials also joined the party and they took them away, some of them kicking and screaming. Could that happen in this year?
Anthony Carrao:
Did they have guns?
J.R. Rochford:
I'll tell you what I mean. It said a lot of them were like plain clothed. They had t shirts, they had white t shirts on. So they were not uniformed personnel. So the you know, we're hiring a whole bunch of IRS agents in this country. You know, just for example, what if a whole bunch of them were armed and they were not uniformed? I mean, could we be like China? So, you know, we there's my doom and gloom. So now I'm telling you, be careful how much you keep in the banks, you know?
Anthony Carrao:
Well, this is I want to keep following this story as things progress over the weeks, because we mentioned Cyprus and because of the bail ins in Greece and you talk about people being lit on fire in front of the banks, well, now we're having something similar happen and live like this is happening now. So we don't have to. You know, resort back to things that happened in the past. This is something right now.
J.R. Rochford:
But we and let's keep going every week and kind of remind people of the updates on it. We just, you know, in my favorite word, normalcy bias. We don't think it could happen to us. Cognitive dissonance. I mean, we honestly believe, you know, and this country in general, I know a lot of people are waking up, so more and more are starting to see things are amiss. In general, this country, we're just we're so instant gratification. I mean, you know, it's amazing how short our attention span is. It's just amazing that this country can't see that we have potential issues coming our way and our whole thing. Having this radio show, we want to sound alarms. You know, I will kind of wrap this up today with telling you we still believe that you have time. You know, Anthony, you always talk about people's 41k, you know, again, not specific recommendation, but one of your strategies protect what you have. If you have 50,000 in your 41k, you may want to at least look into safeguarding that into the stable value fund or the money market. And then on your future contributions, you can take more risk. We, you know, for your future contributions, if things are going down, you're buying them on sale. So we we do still have traditional financial planning solutions, but we're just going to give them with a side of buy some water.
Anthony Carrao:
After using your town garden. Now you can invest in your for one.
J.R. Rochford:
K we are going to look at your statements by the light of your tower garden, your indoor aquaponics tower gardening, which by the way, it takes up very little space. It's amazing. My desert tortoise loves the butter lettuce. Anthony was feeding our tortoise lettuce on Sunday. So let's wrap it up. I think I think we've done enough for one show. I don't think people can handle anymore of your ranting and raving in one day.
Anthony Carrao:
Now, give it to myself next time. Sorry, sorry, guys.
J.R. Rochford:
How do people find us?
Anthony Carrao:
You can find us at another money show dot com. You can listen to us wherever you listen to your podcast. You can listen to old episodes on our website.
J.R. Rochford:
Thanks for being here.
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