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This is another money show. Get set for another hour of the latest financial information and economic news affecting your bottom line. J.r. and Anthony are committed to helping more Americans like you optimize their income, reduce their tax risk and reach financial freedom. So let's start the show. Here are your hosts, Anthony Carrao and J.R. Rotchford.
Anthony Carrao:
Here we are, your host, Anthony Carrao and J.R. Rotchford taking a break from our day to day as financial advisors with Rotchford and Associates, a fully independent fourth generation family office right here in the greater Phoenix area. To bring you information you may not find on those other financial shows. We're aware the last thing you need is another money show. But we appreciate you being here. And apparently we're not like the other radio shows. J.r., how many do you listen to this weekend? You said 11.
J.R. Rotchford:
I listen to 11 different shows.
Anthony Carrao:
Don't you have better things to do on Labor Day weekend?
J.R. Rotchford:
I do not. I spent my Labor Day laboring. So this show would be really, really good today. So 11 different shows. And you know, what I noticed about all 11 shows tell me they're very financial. I heard about buy and hold and I heard, you know, they don't call it that anymore. But I heard about missing the best ten days in the market. You know what? I didn't hear? I didn't hear the stuff that we bring to people. And, you know, I mean, I keep saying this. I say this week after week, am I looking forward to the day that we go back to traditional financial planning? You know, rule 100, we're going to take your date of birth and we're going to help you. We can help everybody. You know, when I got into this industry over a quarter of a century ago, I thought this job was a science. You know, you get your securities license, you get your life in health license, insurance license, and then you can go out and help everybody. You know, it's just you learn the rules. There's basic rules. And as long as you don't try to mess with them, you're okay. And then I'm in the job, I don't know, a week and a half, two weeks. And I realized this job is not a it's not a science, it's an art.
J.R. Rotchford:
I mean, everybody's different. You know, you can get people in their eighties that are way more okay with risk than people in their twenties. You know, my father, he was 28 years older and he never minded risk. He bought stocks and stuff that that I mean, to me, it made me uncomfortable. I was buying fixed annuities, you know? I mean, I'm in my early thirties buying in thirties buying fixed annuities because I didn't want to lose any money. I wanted to protect what I had. So I know that these other shows that I'm hearing, they're doing the right things because we're financial shows that we're supposed to be giving you ideas and rules based on traditional financial planning. I just look around. I mean, look at the world around us. You know, we record on Tuesdays and then this airs on Saturdays. And you know what my biggest fear is? Every week between Tuesday and Saturday, I'm going to say a bad word, a lot of stuff. A lot of stuff can come up. So and by the way, when I look at just the last week, week and a half, did you know that the commander in chief, Joseph Robinette Biden, did you know that he gave a speech on TV? I don't know. I think it was like a week and a half ago on a Thursday night.
Anthony Carrao:
I heard about the speech. I didn't listen to it.
J.R. Rotchford:
You need to. It was only played on I think it was MSNBC and CNN. They didn't play it on FOX. They didn't play it on the news channels. You know, this is the president, United States, whether people like it or don't like it or voted for him or didn't or watch 2000 meals or whatever the deal.
Anthony Carrao:
Is, I voted for him five times.
J.R. Rotchford:
Are you from Chicago? Good call. Well, if you haven't seen the speech, you need to. Every single person in this country needs to see the speech. It really it's very, very dividing, divisive. It's it's very I mean, I couldn't believe it. I had trouble finding it. I was actually texting a friend of mine, like, where in the hell is it? You know, you would think it would be on on the major networks. And I wound up watching it on YouTube, and I and I had to see it a couple of times because I don't care what side you're on. Know, one of our ten pillars is politics, you know. And Anthony, a lot of the times when I say stuff that's more extreme, it's my opinion. I'm not trying to give you your opinion. I think the country is going the wrong direction in a hurry. And when I look at politics and how divided we are, when I look at families disowning their parents or their kids on Facebook, you know, I mean, you can't have Thanksgiving weekend with somebody without having to change your will and trust on Monday. So I think we're getting very divided. I don't care what side of the political aisle you are on, this speech should scare the crap out of everybody in the country because the president actually basically said that about half of the country is a threat to the entire country. Like this is you know, you hear it. It's a war against good versus evil. It really could come down to that soon. You know, I mean, the president did tell people, you know, regards to the Second Amendment that you better have.
J.R. Rotchford:
I believe it was F-16s and nukes. Maybe it was if you're going to come up against us. I mean, there's threats going on and. And I listened to the talk news radios the next morning after that speech. And a lot of it was, you know, this is a trap. Don't fall into the trap. You know, become vote. I mean, you know, make sure you vote carefully in November. Make sure you vote carefully in two years. But, you know, something could tip here. We could go into civil unrest and we could go into a civil war in this country. You know, it is dead serious. You know, when we talk about finances, it's like, well, what is civil war and civil unrest have to do with finances? Well, I would say wait and see because, A, the stock market's going to collapse, which really I mean, I think it's going to anyway. I mean, I could picture a Great Depression. We're way overdue when you have almost 15 years of an up run in the market, and yet personal savings is going down. Everything's changing. Maybe not for the best and the market's just having a great time. You know, I've heard you say to people, Anthony, the market, you know, the stock market is not the economy and the economy is not the stock market. You know, we had a pretty bad first five months of the year and then all of a sudden, I don't know, five weeks ago, whatever, everything comes roaring back like everything's okay.
J.R. Rotchford:
Tell me what's okay. I mean, we were talking a few episodes back about food shortages. We were talking about DCF, the diesel exhaust fluid shortages and and baby formula shortages. You know, look what happened with toilet paper and what, April or May of 2020, if that happens with food, you know, hunker down, you know, your finances are going to be the least of your worries if the grocery stores are closed. So and speaking of that, my understanding about 11 days from today, which is Tuesday, so when you're hearing on Saturday, it's going to be roughly, I don't know, five days. The train workers are talking about going on strike. So who thinks about trains anymore? Unless you're on Grand Avenue and you get stuck by a train? We're not thinking about trains. You know, everybody is thinking about diesel, the cost of it, and how if there was a trucker strike or something like that happened, we're not going to get food. Well, you know, how do you think the foods get to where the truckers pick up the food and the truckers take the food to the grocery stores? They go they go on trains. So if we have a train strike, watch out. You know, and what's my answer? We give all these problems week after week. We sound alarms. We're not a traditional financial planning show yet. We will be one day, January 1st, 2023. Get us through the end of this year. You know, Anthony, you always say, what do you mean, the light switch.
Anthony Carrao:
You say that all the time.
J.R. Rotchford:
You hate nothing changing them. That's okay. No, you're right. Nothing's changing. It's. It's right now we have to deal with the resurgence of COVID and monkeypox. And now I heard over the weekend measles. We have measles. I don't even know what a measles is. You know, I guess I will soon because, you know, I'm out and about with people. So sure, I was exposed. And the midterm elections, you know, this this speech that I really urge everybody to go on YouTube and find it, boy, this this election, it's like, you know, the next couple of months leading up to it. And then I would say even no matter how the election goes to get to the end of the year, if if the House and the Senate, if they change hands, you know, there's still a couple of months of unrest possibly to change hands. It's going to be weird. So, you know, when I talk about problems, I have to give you solutions. Here's a solution for you right now. If we had a food shortage, put some extra food under your bed, in your cupboard. If you have a little tiny apartment, you still have places to put a few cases of cans of corn and stuff, you know, I mean, if you're a full blown prepper minded person by Mrs., you know, do what you and I did.
J.R. Rotchford:
Anthony There were full blown preppers, mostly because we don't know how to do it. We don't have any money. We're always broke. So, well, you're not because you're not married and you don't have kids. No offense to my wife and kids. You know, we bought a tower garden plug to our friend Marcy, a tower. And they're like eight or 900 bucks. So it's a it's a steep outlay at first. And we spent more than that because we bought extra seeds and extra pump and all kinds of stuff. So you can grow your own food, you know? I mean, if the shelves are bare, we have a solution for you. I'm not saying mortgage your house to do so or get a home equity line of credit, but take $500 or $1,000, buy some extra food, some with a good shelf life. Probably not pralines and cream.
Anthony Carrao:
Ice cream. Yeah. Those the buckets from I think it was like Agusta Farms. I was looking yesterday on Amazon it's 75 bucks for their lunch and dinner bucket cheap cheap.
J.R. Rotchford:
Get some of that stuff. And by the way, with the canned peas and all that stuff, let's say you spend three or four or $500 on canned goods and you don't need them. Well, they have a good shelf life, so rotate them into your diet. Let's say you still don't eat them. January 1st gets here, the light switch is flipped and everything's okay. And you're sitting here with $500 worth of peas and carrots. Give it to Saint Mary's Food Bank or Saint Vincent de Paul. Be a hero. Don't even put your name. Just drop it off and help somebody else. That's food insecure. That's the name food insecure. By the way, we are asking for another I don't know. I think it is I took a note it but I've got so many notes all over here. I don't know. I think it's like $11 Billion to Ukraine. What the hell? You know, we've got people in this country that are hungry. We've got a homeless problem. I know Phoenix is no different. It's growing fast. We've got veterans that are struggling. It's like, let's let's help ourselves first. When you read.
Anthony Carrao:
That article you sent me about Ukraine and they're saying only 30% of those funds are actually making it to the front lines, all the weapons, all this stuff that we're giving.
J.R. Rotchford:
Them. Shocking. So maybe there's some money laundering or maybe there's some, you know, backroom deals that would be shocking for for I got to be careful what I say. I don't want send me in a van to pick me up today. Unless there's candy in the van. I'm not dumb. I will only get. Of an understanding.
Anthony Carrao:
I was in Ukraine, voted one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
J.R. Rotchford:
It's politicians, kids working there, doing who knows what for millions of dollars.
Anthony Carrao:
And it's not like Russia's any better.
J.R. Rotchford:
Well, the whole world is corrupt. We've got to face that.
Anthony Carrao:
So to be fair, we're not much better now that we mention this. I throw stones when you're an American as well.
J.R. Rotchford:
In a glass house or what is it so and you're only my stepson. I would send you to Ukraine like all these rich and famous people. But you're only my stepson, so I only halfway care about you. So I'm not going to let you to.
Anthony Carrao:
I don't think you have the political connections to send me to Ukraine to make it worth your while.
J.R. Rotchford:
Well, I will, because I think there's a van outside my door. I think I'm going to meet some politicians. The longer we do the show, the more I'm just shocked and I don't end up missing in a reeducation camp or whatever they are. So back to the food. I know we're getting near the break time. So back to the food thing. Reach out to us, text us, call us, send a pigeon, but we'll give you ideas on how to do it. We'll give you ideas on where to go. You know, you talk about that August and farms so we can help you with the food. We also think water, by the way, how much water people are over five gallon thing. Do I buy one of those big blue drums you should have? This is a starting point. You should have 15 gallons. That's three of those five gallon containers. You should have 15 gallons per adult and large sized dog there. Jot that down. 15 gallons per large dog and person that'll get you started. Start, you know, not a bad start at all. We need to take a break. But as always, you can reach us at team at another money money dotcom. That's team at another money show. Easy for me to say dot com or call us 6235230444. We want to help you one person, one couple, one family at a time. And that's you know, you say we're taking a break from our daily as financial advisors. You know, this radio show is a platform. We get to sound alarms, but during the day, we sit with people and we talk to people and we look at statements and we do all the financial stuff. So, yes, I want you prepared, not scared, but I also want you to know if you have a41k, we can help you look at your allocations. We can do all that financial stuff.
Anthony Carrao:
Well, the show is mostly just to describe philosophy. I mean, we still do all the normal financial planning. It's just why we think the way we do. I mean, we're overly overly protective. It's you made that money. Don't lose it. Was that Warren Buffett quote? It's like rule number one, don't lose money. Rule number two is referred to rule number one. It's that simple. And there's not enough vehicles to really do that. But. You know, we can help you with that. So we're going on break. We will be right back.
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Anthony Carrao:
Welcome back to another Money Show. Anthony and J.R. here and J.R. is on one today. So whether or not we talk about financial stuff, who knows? But we're going to talk about philosophy, that's for sure. What else do you got for us here?
J.R. Rotchford:
Well, you said the last thing people need, I would say a root canal. But you said the last thing people need is another money show. So we're going to give them what they need, not another money show. We're going to give them ranting today. So during the break, we talked a little bit about politics. You know, yes, it's a financial show, but believe me, politics is is playing a big part in our world right now. The division, you know, we have today, the adult supervision. Sam Sam Davis, our one and only Sam Davis is not here today. So we have Jim and we chatted with him a little bit and Jim said it perfectly. We this is like wrestling. It's like a show, you know, these rallies and stuff. We're waiting for somebody to hit somebody else with a chair. It's like it's all theater, you know? There's nothing left in this country, if you ask me. But the haves and the have nots, I'm pretty sure that's how the world is. So you think these politicians I don't care what side you think they care about you, you know, I mean, we have real world problems for most of us. You know, one of our pillars is the shrinking middle class. If you're ultra wealthy and ultra wealthy, in my opinion, starts at 5 million and up. And then you can get really ultra wealthy talking to you. Elon, we need sponsors. Elon Musk, you know, we're going to move the show to Mars if you sponsor us.
J.R. Rotchford:
So just throwing out there for you. So, you know, look look at, you know, the poor, the impoverished, the poverty level people. We give them tons of help. You know, we give them cards and we give them free Internet access and we give them subsidies and SNAP and Section eight and all this stuff. So they're going to be okay. You know, is it compassion? Are we a compassionate nation and we're trying to help people? No, I mean, I don't think so. I think we don't want people to rise up. I think we're keeping people quiet so the rich are going to be okay. And by the way, I mean, 25 years ago when I was new here, Rich was $1,000,000. If you had a paid off home, some sort of Buick, you know, I'm in Sun City, so it had to be a Buick of some sort. And you had $1,000,000. You're okay. You know, health care wasn't extremely expensive like it is now and out of control. So now I would say it starts at 5 million. You'll be okay. What are the people do that aren't getting an EBT card but they don't have $5 million? That's a lot of us and we are being so used. So then anyway, enough of politics. Back to money. You know, we talk about so many different things. We need this show to be 6 hours. Jim, can you make that happen? Sam's never been able to do that.
J.R. Rotchford:
He keeps us at an hour minus commercials. So electric vehicles. Let's talk about that just for a second. Evs, you know, we're going to give subsidies, I guess, I don't know, 7500 bucks. You buy an EV for whatever it is, 60, 70 grand. We're going to give you 7500. Who who's going to give me 7500? Is that federal money? I believe it is. We're broke. Broke is zero. Broke is you're out. You don't have any money. I mean, I think I think if you looked in Webster, Merriam, whatever it is, dictionary, I think broke means you're out of money. We are a 30 and a half trillion dollars in the hole and we're given 11 billion more to Ukraine. We're going to give out subsidies for electric vehicles. By the way, California, I know this is all over Facebook, but California said by 2035, no more gas powered vehicles. You're going to have to have an electric vehicle. And then like six days later, they said, you can't charge your car. You know, there's only a handful of them, you know, and you can't charge it. What's going to happen when there's a whole bunch of them and they say, oh, you know, it's going to strain the power grid. Did you hear about Colorado? There were like 22,000 people in Colorado that voluntarily signed up for an energy program where the company has access to their thermostat. Anthony, did you hear about that?
Anthony Carrao:
So I thought I heard something about that a while back, but I don't. So that actually happened.
J.R. Rotchford:
It happened last week. Colorado do do a quick search, Google search, DuckDuckGo, whatever your search engine is. Yeah, 22,000 people voluntarily signed up. They got a $100 stipend to sign up. And then I believe they get $25. I don't know if it's a month or a year. I don't care. So and then the electric company has control of their thermostats. So one day last week, it got over 90 degrees in this city. And they they gave warnings. They shot you a text or however they do it, that you better turn your error down. And then they shut the air. They shut it down. I'm like, welcome to your future. $100 for 100 bucks. Yeah, we're doing it to ourselves. This country is so asleep. Do you remember years ago when the big push from all the property and casualties, state, farm farmers, all state. Do you remember when the big push was? Let us put some diagnostic, let us plug something into your car so we can see how fast you're going if you have jackrabbit starts and heartbreaking.
Anthony Carrao:
Yeah. No, that's gained a lot of popularity. I know a few people that do that.
J.R. Rotchford:
Well, I hope you never do it because I've driven with you. So you're not a good candidate. You're.
Anthony Carrao:
People if they saw how I was driving.
J.R. Rotchford:
But people voluntarily said, Oh, I don't mind the intrusion. Go ahead, come into my car. I mean, you know, your cell phone. I don't know if this is true, but on your cell phone, if you start talking about your dog food, I said everybody should have 15 gallons for the large dog. Now I'm going to get popups from Chewy and Petco and or we need sponsors. Did I mention that Chewy can pick up PetSmart or whatever you guys are? So yeah, I mean, this is I don't.
Anthony Carrao:
Think we need any sponsors because then you're going to have to hock all of their crap.
J.R. Rotchford:
And I'm going to be pissing people off and then they're going to drop us. It's not good. So speaking of cell phones that are listening to us, we're paying like $1,000 for a cell phone. Like, think about the middle class. If you have 5 million up good good for you. Buy their latest Samsung. You know, the Apple phone comes out. Not only are we paying $1,000 or more for a cell phone, we're waiting in line to do it. You know, what is the new Star Wars movie coming out? What are you in line for? Because I want to I want to get when I get ripped off for $1,000 for this little computer, you know, it's supposed to give us freedom, right? You know, you have the cell phone with you. It's a little computer. You have it everywhere. When's the last time you went to the potty without checking Facebook and Instagram? And, you know, yeah, there's so much weirdness. So back to money, though. I'd like to rant on everything that's bothering me today, but again, we can't seem to get a six hour show, so I guess that's not going to happen.
Anthony Carrao:
Then stop wasting time and say what you want to say.
J.R. Rotchford:
I like wasting time. It's what I do. I talk. I have no skills whatsoever except non stop talking. Well, I can overeat and oversleep. I do have skills but I like to talk the best. So. And by the way, back to the electric company. I can't seem to move on. I just saw a commercial recently for APS. If you're in the Phoenix area, you either have ESP or apps. And I saw a commercial and I thought about that. So I don't have a choice, right? I mean, I can't say I'd rather switch over to XRP. I don't like apps. I have no choice. You know, wherever you live that dictates your power company. So why are you jacking up my rates as often as you are? And then you're spending some of that money to to advertise, you know, who are you trying to bring on board apps or you just you've got too much money and you're trying to spend some of it, man. I'm going to get in trouble now by the power company. Oh, shoot. If the lights go dark here, you know what happened?
Anthony Carrao:
That anybody cares enough about your opinion to try to shut you down?
J.R. Rotchford:
I don't know. I'm not sure if that's true. I think everything I say is super important. All seven of our listeners, I bet they're having a good time today because you're right. I'm on one today. All right, so why don't we do this? I think we have a little bit of time before the break. Let's go further on the end of the world, we talked about the banks and how we think people should have some cash at home. Yes, we do believe we're going into a central bank digital currency. So but until that happens, have some cash at home. You know, they're going to give you a window. You can turn it in. So basically with what to do if we don't think you probably you know, this is not I can't give general advice, but, you know, basically, we don't think you should be trusting the stock and bond markets right now. We think you should be very careful and have your eyes open. We don't think you should have much money in the bank. We have to give you alternatives. One of the ones that keeps coming up is gold and silver. So let's take a break and then I want to jump in to gold and silver, if that's okay with you, Anthony.
Anthony Carrao:
Yeah. I like talking about gold and silver.
J.R. Rotchford:
All right. How do people find myself? Nice. What's your address? I need your address. And. So lead us into break. Anthony, how do people find us if they want to hear more of this?
Anthony Carrao:
You can find us at another money show dot com or shoot us an email at team at another money show to com. And we'll be right back.
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Anthony Carrao:
All right. You're back. Anthony Carrillo, J.R. Ratchford listening to another Money Show. And of course, we're talking about all the the doom and gloom in society when you talk about doom and gloom when it comes to your finances. Gold and silver always come up. So let's give us we get a lot of questions on gold and silver and what are our thoughts. So let's give us give us our thoughts here.
J.R. Rotchford:
Today's the J.R show. I like the last couple of shows because we interacted and you did half the show and I did half. But today, since I'm kind of on fire, I think it's good that I get this out of my system. I'll be I'll be better for next week. So gold and silver now, of course I won't. So gold and silver, we get asked about it a lot. It's a store of value, you know, we think inflation is bad, so gold is good. You know, first of all, why is gold and silver this year, 2022? Why is it so low? How come it hasn't broken out? I mean, everybody sees we're at the end of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Everybody sees the 40 year inflation. You know, why isn't gold through the roof? Could there be some market manipulation on precious metals? I mean, that's one question I have. You know, and by the way, when people are buying gold and silver, what do you do? Do you go to a mutual fund company and buy a precious metals fund? Do you actually take possession of the physical gold and put it in your house? Do you get a gold Ira? I mean, how do you handle it? We help people with those answers. But a couple of things about gold. I want to give a warning. One thing is moderation. I mean, isn't that the key to life? I mean, do I like Krispy Kreme doughnuts? Yes. Should I have to? Okay. Should I have 12? Probably not.
J.R. Rotchford:
You know, should you sell all of your 401. K and your mutual funds and and buy gold? Probably not. A couple of things. So with the moderation, what is what is the standard answer to how much you should have in precious metals if you're inclined to have precious metals, you know, 10%, maybe in serious, uncertain times, 15%. But other than that, I'd be careful. Now, here's my thought on gold and silver. First of all, what are you going to do with it? So the dollar collapses. There's the civil unrest that I spoke of earlier. People are throwing rocks at each other and you've got a pile of gold. So you're like Scrooge McDuck sifting through your little coins. I can actually picture you doing that, Anthony. So you've got this pile of gold, all right? And I'm going to be very crude and blunt for a second. And believe me, this is not me and you. This is not a specific example. Somebody in a in an affluent neighborhood has $100,000 worth of gold. Somebody else has an AR 15 or an AK 47 or some kind of scary rifle. And gold goes to 20,000 an ounce. You're not going to be able to buy that person's rifle. That person shall be able to relieve you of your gold. So what if it backfires and gold and silver just make you a target? So that's one problem I have with with you know, you've got to be careful. The other thing is you can't eat it.
J.R. Rotchford:
So if the stores are bare, if the trains stop running and then the trucks can't get food to the grocery store, what are you going to do with your gold? You're going to barter. So I did a little search yesterday in preparation of discussing gold and silver. I started doing the Internet search and how many people own gold and silver. And I found a bunch of sources that seem to kind of match up. 10.8% of the country owns gold of any not just jewelry, but gold for four currency. 11.6% of the country owns silver. So when people say, yeah, I know I can't eat it, yeah, I'm going to be I'm not going to be a target because I've got a bunch of friends and we all have, you know, hand grenades and stuff. So you you're going to barter with it. You're you if you're hungry, gold is not worth nearly as much as a sandwich. So you just knocked out roughly 90% of your barter ability. If roughly 10% has precious metals, 90% don't. So, you know, really, I mean, 90% of the people, they are not looking in the gold and silver bartering trade, you know, so I don't I'm very skeptical of people that are buying precious metals. Should you have a little bit. Yes. Should you have it in your fireproof safe that's bolted down in your home? Yes. I mean, I wouldn't really trust a safe deposit box at a bank. See our show from, what, two weeks ago? Pretty much every.
Anthony Carrao:
Show we talk about how we don't trust the banks. It comes up in one way or another.
J.R. Rotchford:
Yeah, we're super worried about the banks. A quick recap in case you're joining us for the first time, you know, you're FDIC Deposit Insurance Corporation, the FDIC people, you're coverage on covered accounts, which means under 250,000, 1.23% currently. So good luck getting your money. We also think there's going to be the banks are going to close the doors. We believe a bail in is coming. If you're not familiar with the term bail in, I would look at it. I would look it up sooner than later.
Anthony Carrao:
You're all familiar with the past episodes because we've done a couple that are strictly on bail and because it's such a such a massive topic that you really need to be knowledgeable about. Out. Yep. Jim, got to talk to Jim today about balance. That was a new term for him. So we're glad Sam's out today because we get to teach Jim some stuff. If it seems like a real happy guy when this all started and now he's now he's had to deal with that. So we'll see if he ever gets back.
J.R. Rotchford:
Good luck. Jim's going to have canned peas and corn and silver. Oh, one last thing on the precious metals, because we will move on after the break. We we have a friend named Randy who just educated us on something called gold backs. So do an Internet search on gold back.
Anthony Carrao:
Let's talk about those when when we come back just for a little bit, because I found him very, very interesting. I don't think they're the new wave or we'll just we're going to talk about it when we get back. You can find us in the meantime at another Money Show dot com. We'll talk to you shortly.
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And we're back. Anthony Creole Jr. Rotchford. You're listening to Another Money Show and we try to have a short segment on gold and silver, but of course we didn't finish the thoughts. So talking about gold backs, we had a friend of ours recently bring those up and we're quite surprised that it's not something we had heard of before. But I dug a little deeper into them and what they are is they kind of make them like bills. It started out of Utah. And essentially they're in different denominations and each denomination looks like a currency. It looks like a bill. But inside of that bill is 24 carat gold, which is the purest gold you can can find, but it's thousandths of an ounce. So you can have a $1, essentially denomination, which is one thousandths of an ounce. You can have a five, which is 5000, ten, 50 and 25, I believe. And they've got them out of Utah, Nevada, New Hampshire. And I believe Wyoming is the newest one on the docket. But I just I find it very interesting. The reason that was brought up to us is they think that this could be a resurgence of being dependent on gold for our currency. And I'll be honest, I don't see that ever happening. I think it's going to continue to be a fake currency. I think our US dollar will become a US digital dollar. And how that transition occurs, I have no idea. I don't see us going back to a gold standard, but that doesn't mean these aren't worth having again, in moderation. Right?
J.R. Rotchford:
Right. And you know what? We cannot go back to the gold standard because we are broke. It's game over. We have relinquished our control of our lives to the politicians. You know, don't forget gold bugs. They took your gold. Do you know that? They said, what was it, 1933 or something? They said, Turn in your gold or you're a felon. So a lot of the country that don't want to be a felon turned in their gold, why can't they do that again when they go to the digital currency? Why can't they shut down Ripple, Ethereum, Bitcoin? Why can't they say you are now only allowed to do your business in the digital currency? And don't get me started on China and social scores and all this stuff because that's tinfoil hat. And you know me, I'm very down to earth.
Anthony Carrao:
Adi. I mean, it's here like it's happening in other countries. To think that we're special enough that it can't happen here is very naive.
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All right, so you think I was being serious when I said I'm not tinfoil hat? I have the biggest tinfoil hat I've ever seen. I look like a Hershey kiss right now. My entire body is covered. I am wrapped in tinfoil.
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Did you look at those gold backs after we talked? Because that was a new term to me, you think would be something we would be aware of. But I did quite a bit of research on that this weekend and I find it fascinating. You know, I picked up some just to have and to kind of see what it's like. But again, I don't think it's a wave of the future, but that doesn't hurt to have.
J.R. Rotchford:
Well, no. And you know, the whole thing I mean, if you have some gold and silver, good on you, you know, I mean, have some moderation. The key is always moderation. You know, with these gold backs. I am very surprised that I just heard the word last week for the first time, you know, and by the way, they've had this forever. You can get fractional gold. I told you about vault candy bars and what they are is there are 1.6 ounce gold piece scored. So it's like perforated into 51 gram pieces. So if you have a gold $10 piece that's worth, you know, gold goes to the moon, so it's worth 20,000. What are you going to shave some off so you can buy some Q-tips so the veil can be bars, you can actually break off a piece and and barter with it. Again, you knocked out 90% of the people that are dealing in gold and silver. But sorry. You know what I think is probably you know, here I go. I'm getting ready to go off the rail again. You know what I think is more important than gold and silver and gold backs and candy bars, food and water. Let's go a little further. Let's go into more of the remember when the show Doomsday Preppers was on and they were doing canning? And, you know. Yes, I mean, people in the LDS faith, I mean, they've been prepared forever. Those are the original preppers, you know, and anybody that thinks they're they're a little bit off.
J.R. Rotchford:
It's like in this world right now, they're not off at all. We are. So. But anyway, if if things get sketchy and the grocery stores are bare, you already better have what you better have because people are going to be dangerous. You don't want to leave your house, so you better have enough where you can stay in your house until things get sorted out. But when when we used to talk about a little more extreme prepping and by the way, the word prepping it got kind of a negative connotation. Prepping is from the word prepared, you know. And by the way, you know, when you hear I really going to take you, I'm at a time travel back to the first segment. If you go on YouTube and watch the president's speech from a week and a half ago, you know, he he calls half the country MAGA extremists. I believe the term is, you know, what MAGA stands for, Anthony? I'm sure you do make America great again. Did you know that MAGA make America great again? So you've got a president that's saying don't make America great again. I mean, I guess I'm a little confused. I would say if you're an extremist of any sort, I don't care what side you're on. Yeah, that's a problem. I don't care if you're extreme, whatever. That's a problem. You know, to just blanket and say people that say Make America Great again are a problem.
J.R. Rotchford:
To me that seems like a problem, but that's just me. So back to barter ability and doomsday preppers like how I took us right back without getting off track to bed. So you know what I would have if I were you, I would go to total wine and more or bev more sponsorship. I would go to one of those places and take five. A box or whatever your your income allows. And by mini bottles, I would get them five main food groups. I would get tequila, vodka, whiskey. What else is there? Tequila, vodka, whiskey. Rum, rum. And I would spend some money on those things. Don't go to the front of the store where it's, you know, labels like Jack Daniels or whatever go to the back where they have the off brand bottles. Because when people can't get into a liquor store, they're not going to really care if it's Southern Comfort or if it's like Bob's whiskey. But buy a bunch of those and put them under your bed. I don't care that you don't drink. I mean, a lot of people are like, Well, I don't smoke or I don't drink. Well, yeah, but if the world gets sketchy, you have something to trade. I will give you ten bottles of Bob's whiskey, and you give me a case of corn. Boom. Problem solved. Put ten cartons of cigarettes under your bed. Well, I don't smoke. Well, I understand that, but talk about trade.
Anthony Carrao:
Would you if you that this weekend about cigarettes for that reason but also because it was in a vending machine at a bar. When's the last time you saw cigarettes in a vending machine?
J.R. Rotchford:
How much were they? Ten bucks a pack.
Anthony Carrao:
It was ten bucks. Oh, I definitely I don't know what to do with them. I'm just sitting in my office right now, but I was just, like, not going to pass up this opportunity to go in a time machine and get cigarettes out of a vending machine.
J.R. Rotchford:
I am so glad that an impulse purchase to you like some people are at the aisle at Walmart. Check it out. Ooh, chapstick. Ooh. A little mini bottle of hand sanitizer. Not Anthony. I bought a pack of smokes.
Anthony Carrao:
So when the world ends, though, I can trade them. So come to me for a barters if you smoke and everything.
J.R. Rotchford:
So listening. Audience All nine of you. Seven. I don't know how many followers we have, by the way. We're on YouTube now. We've got like five subscribers, I believe I'm number one or number two, Emily or Buddy Emily. She said over the weekend that she signed up to be a subscriber.
Anthony Carrao:
We should shout out Wiley, too. I think Wiley has listened to every single show that we've done since the beginning. Wiley is our number one fan.
J.R. Rotchford:
Well, and it's funny. I mean, we're getting more and more people that are saying they're hearing the show. So I think we're getting somewhere slowly but surely, you know, and you know, the younger you kids, you younger people, you know, you can subscribe to the podcast, right? Know, our show is is taped on Tuesday. It airs on Saturday at noon on 960. The Patriot because we are intelligent news talk. But you can also go to our websites and hear the radio shows, all the ones we've done. You can also subscribe to the podcast, so that's pretty cool. You can find.
Anthony Carrao:
Us a lot of we didn't think anybody my age listened to AM Radio and I had lunch with a buddy Abel this weekend and he was very excited to find out that we were on 960. So that's his Saturday his weekend go to. He said he throws it on in the background. All right. So is you able to.
J.R. Rotchford:
Listen to AM radio on the weekends? Because it's my job. I mean, you know, we manage money without a.
Anthony Carrao:
Crystal ball 11 of them this weekend.
J.R. Rotchford:
I did. But who's counting? And it was amazing how similar they are. One other thing about the 11 shows, you do realize a lot of these shows are saying if you have 200,000, if you have 250,000, there's one guy in Phoenix who I didn't hear it this weekend, but I've heard a show before. And he says if you have $1,000,000, you know, you're welcome to sit with me. It's like, really I mean, you know, if you have $49, you're welcome to get a second opinion at Rotchford Associates. Maybe one day we'll be so big, we'll have to join them and then stop making fun of them. But, you know, for me right now, if you have minimums, would you?
Anthony Carrao:
I would not be in this office if we ever did that.
J.R. Rotchford:
I agree. I agree. Yeah. We might have to, you know, turn people away. We might have to hire a rep, we might have to figure something out. But, yeah, we're yeah, we're we're here to help people. Yeah, we're going to turn. Everybody is never.
Anthony Carrao:
Going to be in that office.
J.R. Rotchford:
I'm anti sales I think timeshare salespeople use car salespeople and financial advisors are slimy. So I don't like us. I don't like you, I like me. I don't like you know I'm just kidding. I'm self-loathing. I don't like myself. So back to barter ability. If you put ten cartons of cigarettes under your bed, you know, one of the arguments is I don't smoke. That's good. You're not doing it for you, you know? And again, I mean, give it away, be a hero, find some poor you know, there's a lot of people. Cigarettes are expensive. There's a lot of people that need a handout. So give them away later. The mini bottles, let's say you have $500 worth of mini bottles under your bed and things don't hit the fan. And by the way, I hope I'm wrong. All of the alarms that we're sounding, I do hope I'm wrong. It's not like, oh, J.R., you can't wait for this to happen. No, I really don't want any of this to happen.
Anthony Carrao:
I the the super smarter than us guy Michael Burry that predicted the crash in 2008. I mean, didn't that guy cash out pretty much all of his stocks and got out and he's kind of just waiting things out? I mean, you don't have to just take advice from us. I get that we're nobodies, but there are a lot of very smart people out there that are sounding alarms. There's also a lot of very smart people out there that are telling you everything's fine. But you got to understand those people telling you and everything is fine have a lot to gain by telling you everything is fine. They need to be able to get out first and then you can tag along.
J.R. Rotchford:
Right. Well, in our industry is is based I mean, the foundation of our job. It's not financial. It's it's 100% sales. You could be the most honest financial advisor on the planet. And if you don't make make your production requirements with whatever firm you're with, you're gone. I don't care how. Karen, you are to these families. You're gone if you're not selling. So and you know, I mean, obviously with our office, I mean, we we have a lineup we can help people with with long term care, asset base, long term care insurance products. You know, we can help people with the securities. You're helping people with securities if it's appropriate. You know, if you're 26 years of age, should we put you in a fixed annuity? You know.
Anthony Carrao:
Well, maybe it's meant for retirement. I moved all of my retirement money into fixed index annuities.
J.R. Rotchford:
But you're.
Anthony Carrao:
What I account for miscellaneous pot stocks. That could be something in five, ten years.
J.R. Rotchford:
Pot stocks? That's good. Tell the listening audience on AM radio. Well, Riley's listening. So maybe we have some younger viewers like. Yeah, Anthony likes pot stocks.
Anthony Carrao:
And I mean, I like it's a wave of the future. You're right. The way people try to talk about Nfts being the wave of the future or digital currency, private digital currency, you know, I don't believe in either of those. I do think there's going to be a massive marijuana market. I mean, there already is. So when it becomes federally legal, I think there's a lot of money to be made. So I got I got no qualms with that.
J.R. Rotchford:
No, I agree. And you're looking for opportunities. I mean, people that don't smoke marijuana, they can still invest in it. You know, I remember when I was young in the industry, we would have people from my father's church that wanted socially responsible mutual funds. One of the ones we found was I believe it was a Catholic fund called Ave Maria Funds. And what they did was they they avoided alcohol, tobacco, gambling, all the things that are considered vices.
Anthony Carrao:
So they didn't do very well, did they?
J.R. Rotchford:
They didn't. They didn't they didn't perform as well as a lot of the other mainstream funds. And it was interesting because when people realized that sometimes they added mutual funds to their portfolio that were not exactly Ave Maria funds, I wonder if that funds still out. I need to research some of this stuff that I used to represent. So I don't I don't I mean, we have so much to do. And today was about sounding alarms extra. Like, I want to be able to point this episode out to people, you know what to do if things get sketchy. Well, proactive, not reactive that we're always saying that you have to buy the food and water. Now you can't wait. You know, the toilet paper, the people that had, you know, the big Costco or Sam's Club members mark things of toilet paper. They didn't have to go out. You know, don't forget, they had National Guard people. We forget our attention span is nil. They had National Guard people at Walmarts around the country to keep people orderly. And that was toilet paper. When there's a food shortage, holy cow. I mean, believe me, you don't want to be out of your house. So today's advice, make sure that you get a second opinion on your stuff. Know what you have. It's your money next to your health. It's pretty important. Make sure that you at least open your mind to having some food, some water, some cash, some gold bags.
Anthony Carrao:
Just you got to think our listeners are in Arizona, but if you live on a coastal city, you've got rolling blackouts, you've got storms, all kinds of things. So some people are prepared for the worst. We kind of get Arizona so easy to live in. So even in normal times, this is good advice. So that's it for our show today. If you like what you heard, you have any questions about any of the topics today or if you want to sit down to review your personal situation, you can reach us at team at another money show. Find us on the web at another Money Show dot com or subscribe to another Money Show. Wherever you listen to podcast, there are no minimums. There are no costs for appointments. You have nothing to lose by getting a second opinion. And we will see you next Saturday right here on 1962. Patriot.
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